tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post2911086986507136400..comments2023-10-10T04:34:25.848-04:00Comments on You Are Dreaming: WholenessRandall Friendhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-76005279556384232412009-08-01T18:55:19.447-04:002009-08-01T18:55:19.447-04:00nope, not seen at all. if 'someone' is mea...nope, not seen at all. if 'someone' is meant to see they will, if not they won't.tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-76882073142704337702009-07-31T11:17:26.689-04:002009-07-31T11:17:26.689-04:00Anonymous/Shiva,
Thanks for pointing; it is unders...Anonymous/Shiva,<br />Thanks for pointing; it is understood. <br />The questions posed are now seen as being reliant on a belief/assumption of causality, and belief/assumption itself is illusion. For that matter any/all questions, regardless of their 'source' and content and 'where' they appear are illusory in essence, also being reliant on belief/assumption. <br />The act of posing a question, as with pointing, is a-causal; the question/pointing just 'appears'. What is, is - illusion notwithstanding.<br /><br />KentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-65508899692301309712009-07-30T21:32:13.891-04:002009-07-30T21:32:13.891-04:00Randall,
This is seen & understood. Thank you....Randall,<br />This is seen & understood. Thank you.<br />KentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-55527795151648002342009-07-30T21:01:35.569-04:002009-07-30T21:01:35.569-04:00Shiva,
Yes. Absolutely irrelevant. Nothing is t...Shiva,<br /><br />Yes. Absolutely irrelevant. Nothing is to change, to gain. THIS remains as it is, no matter the translation.<br /><br /><br />love<br />randallRandall Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-52814508580890487182009-07-30T21:00:08.734-04:002009-07-30T21:00:08.734-04:00Anonymous,
Yes. Illusion and realization are bot...Anonymous,<br /><br />Yes. Illusion and realization are both within the relative perspective, only applicable to an individual, which never actually existed apart from the totality.<br /><br />Therefore ignorance and enlightenment are false. There is only the Self.<br /><br /><br />love<br />randallRandall Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-33915150129078474292009-07-30T20:57:16.665-04:002009-07-30T20:57:16.665-04:00Kent,
"Why" is always mind. Why is the...Kent,<br /><br />"Why" is always mind. Why is the mind utilizing it's platforms of belief to construct another story. <br /><br />The answer might be - who knows? Another answer might be - no pointing is actually happening. The most practical answer is - I have no idea. What is, is.<br /><br /><br />love<br />randallRandall Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-72602702558369349902009-07-30T17:42:42.623-04:002009-07-30T17:42:42.623-04:00Randall,
Its clear that whatever you respond - &q...Randall,<br /><br />Its clear that whatever you respond - "yes you are right" or "no that is ignorance" - is irrelevant! I might as well go watch the seagulls on the lake as its the first sunny day in weeks here.. :)<br /><br />I am greateful for Randall Friend.<br />love to you<br />SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-90319276414298136912009-07-30T17:24:03.780-04:002009-07-30T17:24:03.780-04:00Hi Kent,
there really are no questions that remai...Hi Kent,<br /><br />there really are no questions that remain. There are 'answers' you have that remain. (thanks to UG for this, he pointed out that all questions are based on answers/beliefs/assumptions). All your 'questions" come from assumptions and beliefs/answers - In essence, your "answer/belief" is that everything requires a cause/impetus. Your questions are premised on that answer that you take to be absolutely true. If you can even for a moment accept a-causal occurrences (and there are a million happening right NOW, in fact all occurrences are a-causal but some can be seen to be obviously so) then everything is just happening. No Cause. Its here to see if you can drop all the preconceptions.<br /><br />Hi Randall - you often say THIS is IT. Whatever THIS is. <br /><br />So during the conscious state, THIS includes "Shiva" and "Randall". So, in truth, one cannot claim that the "ego" or whatever label is given...is 'false' or illusion - it IS part and parcel of THIS. Illusion cannot exist without an underlying reality and in fact then there is ONLY REALITY - illusion requires reality and therefore IS a part of it. The only ignorance is in then association - i Am 'Shiva" or i AM Randall - when in fact both are equally appearances, parts of the Whole. And even that ignorance does not change the reality or diminish it in anyway - so any so called realization/awakening doesn't mean squat.<br /><br />If you have any response i'd be greateful to hear it...<br />thank you again for all of this<br />SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-71857868269238334272009-07-30T11:53:51.270-04:002009-07-30T11:53:51.270-04:00Dear Randall,
Pointing happens, seemingly from app...Dear Randall,<br />Pointing happens, seemingly from appearances including those labeled Randall/Gilbert/Nisargadatta. Assumptions, of course.<br />The questions remain: <br />Who is causing the pointing to happen, or how is the pointing being caused to happen?<br />Why does it happen?<br /><br />KentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-69814981497221989802009-07-30T10:41:18.362-04:002009-07-30T10:41:18.362-04:00When you see that you are not the doer,not the con...When you see that you are not the doer,not the controler of this life,life goes on as if you were in control,as if you were the doer...the "me" is free to be there!<br />that's the complete freedom,to still be "as if" there is a me with its judgments ,opinions,pissed off states,angers...to completly be pissed off,to completly be sad or bored!if there is a sense of non okaness,that's ok! that's freedom!<br />of course there could be also the complete disappearance of the sense of me and everything is experienced differently,and so what? what would be gained by that?<br />when there is a deep understanding that you are not in control of this life,so the sense of being in control can fully be experienced...there is no guaranty that this sense of doership will fall away...so be completly as you are,be judgmental,critical,selfish,joyful,sad,pissed off...you are both all of that and none of that...who cares if what i said is pseudo or neo advaita?? :-)bibihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15904761799017911513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-76155657292224932852009-07-30T07:16:09.689-04:002009-07-30T07:16:09.689-04:00T,
"some of us are just not meant to see&quo...T,<br /><br />"some of us are just not meant to see" is false. There are not separate individuals, some who see this and some who do not or cannot. Seeing is happening, and within the seeing appear the idea of "T" or "randall" along with the idea of "seeing this".<br /><br />The accumulation of knowledge or concepts is the basis from which the search is being conducted. There is the absolute concept of "Me" and that "Me" is doing the searching, trying to find the answers, following the pointings. All activity is based absolutely on that primary concept of the separate individual. But it is the separate individual itself which IS the illusion or ignorance.<br /><br />The exact point of inquiry is - how do you know of this separate individual? How EXACTLY do you know of yourself as separate? Prove to yourself your own separate existence. See if you can.<br /><br />All you can absolutely know is that you ARE, you are present - you are always HERE - and you are aware - always knowing, always experiencing - always the aware-ness.<br /><br />This presence of awareness is NOT a "thing". It is the basis for all "things". It does not appear. It is the subjectivity which objectifies EVERYTHING, including the sensations called "body and sensations called "thought."<br /><br />This pure subjectivity is always here at the "center" of all experience - the necessary component no matter what the experience is.<br /><br />This subjectivity is absolutely and intimately known right now even before any search, before any pointers. This subjectivity is the actual nonconceptual reference in the word "I". It's what "I" actually means.<br /><br />The mind can only work dualistically - it can only think in terms of "things" - and all "things" have opposites. So the mind translates this certainty of being or presence of awareness or subjectivity as "I AM".<br /><br />So "I AM" is absolutely known as true but translated as a thing - body-mind. The bundle of sensations (objects) are taken to be that I AM-ness, that certainty of being. And that is then captured in a concept called "Me" - some "thing" which must, as all things do, have a beginning and an end, which must, as all things do, have an opposite - the opposite of I AM is "world".<br /><br />So it is this misidentification or translation of that pure being or "I AM" or subjectivity as a "thing" which creates the idea of "ME".<br /><br />But that "I AM" never was an object, never was a separate "ME". That "I AM" is always the pure subjectivity which is the very principle by which the world, body and mind appear.<br /><br />That I AM-ness is the Self. And the Self is formless knowing, present right now, known intimately. You are already THAT. There is no separate "me" who needs to find the answers or cannot find the answers while others do. There is only the Self - one Self. <br /><br />And that is YOU.<br /><br /><br />love<br />randallRandall Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-58226153608462272352009-07-29T23:42:10.880-04:002009-07-29T23:42:10.880-04:00i've tried over and over to follow the pointin...i've tried over and over to follow the pointings but the ignorance never leaves. i don't know who is to lay these concrete assumptions aside and sure don't have the ability to do so. some of 'us' are just not meant to see.tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-2546793458543780372009-07-29T21:44:00.884-04:002009-07-29T21:44:00.884-04:00T,
There is no randall to physically die. What i...T,<br /><br />There is no randall to physically die. What is randall or "t"? Isn't it a concept? Just a name given to something which there is no real clarity on?<br /><br />Investigate the body - find out how you know of it. What is it? Automatically spitting out assumptions is itself the very bondage being sought freedom from.<br /><br />"Body" is a concept. There is no such thing in reality. Body is only known due to a bundle of passing sensations which are later labeled "body" and then "my body", and only then can we speak of a "me" bound within that limited and temporary shell.<br /><br />These passing sensations are known to you - you objectify these sensations. What you are is the subjectivity to the sensation called "body".<br /><br />There is no separate person abiding in a body, possessing awareness which comes and goes.<br /><br />Awareness remains unchanged, unmodified, uncorrected while the so-called body comes and goes. This is quite obvious if the concrete assumptions are laid aside and reality is directly investigated.<br /><br />Hanging on to these assumptions and then seeking freedom is called "ignorance" in Vedanta. It is ignoring reality - reality isn't obscured in any way. It's glossed over in grasping onto the illusory concepts of body and mind.<br /><br /><br />love<br />randallRandall Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-78419941189443012442009-07-29T20:00:47.352-04:002009-07-29T20:00:47.352-04:00so what will you be aware of when randall physical...so what will you be aware of when randall physically dies?tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-86772064749726651802009-07-29T07:14:05.212-04:002009-07-29T07:14:05.212-04:00T,
Your question assumes awareness was previously...T,<br /><br />Your question assumes awareness was previously contained IN a body, the function OF a body.<br /><br />The body is known IN awareness. How can you speak of a body unless this is so? <br /><br />The body, dead or not, appears in awareness. Your question absolutely personalizes awareness, which is not the case.<br /><br />This is an invitation to question the concrete beliefs. Separation or the idea of a separate person abiding in a body is only due to mental translation. That mental translation is subject to question.<br /><br />Standing upon the assumption of awareness as a function of a body, a personal function, is remaining within the mental translation. If the desire or openness comes, then this assumption WILL be questioned.<br /><br />Either way, it is irrelevant, because you already ARE the wholeness which is being sought after, even if there is a false mental translation. It makes no difference.<br /><br /><br />love<br />randallRandall Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-59292196480782089702009-07-28T23:13:59.623-04:002009-07-28T23:13:59.623-04:00no body, dead body..no awareness. where's the ...no body, dead body..no awareness. where's the awareness for a dead body?tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-21079776850737263482009-07-28T22:27:32.029-04:002009-07-28T22:27:32.029-04:00T,
That you have a body is conjecture. That you ...T,<br /><br />That you have a body is conjecture. That you are always here and aware is obvious.<br /><br />How do you know it's even a body? Where did you get that concept? How do you know of the body? It's purely sensation which is then labeled "body" and then "my body".<br /><br />What you call "body" is simply uninvestigated. The body is objective content to THAT which is ever unchanging and limitless. It is only the idea that you are a separate and limited body which apparently binds.<br /><br /><br />love<br />randallRandall Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18004296258866577268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-76831354600969227802009-07-28T21:34:02.794-04:002009-07-28T21:34:02.794-04:00i'm always here and always aware because i hav...i'm always here and always aware because i have a body. anything else is just conjecture on my part.tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2102779776758563952.post-60075576201950967992009-07-28T02:39:18.452-04:002009-07-28T02:39:18.452-04:00This is wholeness...a great pointer...love "y...This is wholeness...a great pointer...love "your" stuff, Randall, marvelously clear.No One In Particularhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13465987207757191972noreply@blogger.com